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Oct 23 16 10:06 AM

Four names I want and four names I want gone. I want Ryan Braun, Zack Greinke, Jonathan Vilar (to play second) and Travis Wood (we need another lefty to team with Dayton in the pen) and I want Puig, Baez, Kike and Utley (0-playoffs, nice going All Star) gone. Wouldn't be unhappy if we lost Kendrick, Kazmir and BMac, but that would be greedy.

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Oct 23 16 10:45 AM

grabarkewitz wrote:
Four names I want and four names I want gone. I want Ryan Braun, Zack Greinke, Jonathan Vilar (to play second) and Travis Wood (we need another lefty to team with Dayton in the pen) and I want Puig, Baez, Kike and Utley (0-playoffs, nice going All Star) gone. Wouldn't be unhappy if we lost Kendrick, Kazmir and BMac, but that would be greedy.

Think the FO have the balls to blow up the team?

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Oct 23 16 11:01 AM

bigblaster wrote:
grabarkewitz wrote:
Four names I want and four names I want gone. I want Ryan Braun, Zack Greinke, Jonathan Vilar (to play second) and Travis Wood (we need another lefty to team with Dayton in the pen) and I want Puig, Baez, Kike and Utley (0-playoffs, nice going All Star) gone. Wouldn't be unhappy if we lost Kendrick, Kazmir and BMac, but that would be greedy.

Think the FO have the balls to blow up the team?
My guess, NFW.

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Oct 23 16 11:13 AM

Job 1--Give Kenley the all-time record closer contract and lock him up for 5 years.
Job 2--Make every reasonable effort to re-sign Justin Turner.

Other possible names include Ryan Braun and would not mind seeing a Puig deal there. Milwaukee wants to shed his contract, so that makes sense for both teams. Don't know why the Brewers would want to lose Villar...that's like asking the Astros for Altuve. The Greinke ship sailed...twice. One in the last off season and again in July when the D'bags were completely out of it and couldn't get what they wanted. No way they trade him in the off season, which would tell all their 79 fans that they were not competing in '17.

As far as subtractions, I think Utley, as much as I like him, is about done. Kendrick really nose dived late, but somebody needs to play second base. J.P. Howell is a free agent, so he's probably gone. Kike' Hernandez was a mirage in '15, but they will keep him around on a AAA shuttle for his versatility. Baez stays unless he's part of a trade package. Fields and Dayton return, as does Avilan, who is arb eligible. Don't see a lot of blowing up of a team that won the division and NLDS series, unless it's to get a top notch starter to slot in behind Kershaw.

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Oct 23 16 12:05 PM

Okay. After sleeping on it, I think I'm going to come out and say what loyal Dodger fans won't want to hear, but need to: I think the Front Office will have to blow up the team. We need to say goodbye to Kike Hernandez, Andre Ethier, Chase Utley, Carlos Ruiz, Howie Kendricks, Brandon McCarthy, Brett Anderson, Joe Blanton and Hyun Jin Ryu. We should be prepared to lose Rich Hill, Josh Reddick and possibly Justin Turner. They need to spend whatever it takes to retain Kenley Jansen and (within reason) Turner. I'm afraid that both Adrian Gonzalez and Yasiel Puig should be trade bait and could be the only way to restock the rotation around Kershaw, Maeda and DeLeon. They need to get some power bats that can hit leftys: Ryan Braun or Yoenis Cespedes are good options. Look into the minors for some talent you can bring up--even early. We need a regular daily 2nd baseman who can help Seager mature for a few years. And, we have to be ready to let the Dodgers lose in 2017, if that will mean they'll be better in 2018 and beyond. The window of opportunity has, IMHO, closed, yesterday, for this current team. Tough love, and I doubt the front office has the huevos to do all of this, but I will respect them greatly, if they do.

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Oct 23 16 12:33 PM

Regarding the front office...

I think a lot of people still mix up the difference between sabermetrics and Moneyball. Sabermetrics is just a fancy name for advanced baseball statistics that try to better evaluate performance from the more traditional methods. While Bill James is the godfather of how we know sabermetrics today, the idea of advanced statistics goes back at least to Branch Rickey.

Moneyball, on the other hand, is more an economic philosophy. Basically, if you're a small market team, you can't compete with the larger market teams on money. If you do, you will get crushed, every time. Therefore, in order to compete with these teams, you must exploit market inefficiencies. During the late 1990s/early 2000s when Billy Beane put this into practice, the market inefficiencies at the time were OBP, SLG%, while the more traditional measures (BA, RBI, W/L) were overvalued. The league/market adjusted, and, today, you're now seeing things such as framing, spin rates, exit velocity, etc. It's an "arms" race for an intellectual edge.

Why do I bring any of this up? Because I think remembering this can lend a great insight into understanding this front office. And when I say understand, I don't necessarily mean agree, but at least "get them", for better or worse.

For Friedman and Zaidi, when constructing their old teams, they couldn't outspend bigger market teams. So they had to be very creative. They couldn't afford a big FA slugger; so, instead, maybe they have to sign two guys (each a LHP and RHP specialist) to platoon to make up the difference. They can't afford a big FA pitcher; so they have to look at guys who are talented, and certainly add value, but perhaps have some flaws, be it health or otherwise.

Now some might dismiss this as cheap, but that misses the point. If you're an A's or Ray's fan, these are great, great signings and good out of the box thinking. They can't afford the tier 1 players, but if this platoon can get 75% of the production, or if X starter can put up 80% of the production, while maybe making a couple of DL trips, it's a huge win. You can live with the flaws. And for teams like the A's or Rays, it's a necessity to survive.

But there are problems, namely that there's more variables, risks, and moving parts being introduced. So when one half of your platoon sucks, to quote the great Edie McClurg, you're fucked (as this team found out vs. LHP). When you stack a rotation of guys with sketchy medical records, and they, well, get hurt, once again, you're SOL. Now, when you're operating from a small payroll, you can accept these limitations because there's no alternative. When you're a big market team, with the highest payroll at your disposal, these limitations become harder to tolerate.

And after a couple of years at the helm, this is what I think is increasingly showing to be the front office's biggest flaw, which is, they haven't quite adjusted to a big market. And when I say "adjust to a big market", I don't mean throwing away money foolishly or trading the farm for rentals. Many of the principles that this FO brings, from financial discipline, to extracting maximum value, are great things, regardless of payroll, and they've done an amazing job in that regard. The depth they built this year was insane and this team doesn't touch the playoffs without it. Go look at the teams who had 20+ DL stints and see their records: they were almost always in last place, not in game 6 of the NLCS. Deals like the Trayce Thompson deal, their ability to game the system for extra draft picks, are them at their best. It's great to have that in the Dodgers' front office. I love how obsessed they are at building from the fringes, from the 25th man up.

But the problem is, you can't always, or just merely, build from the fringes. Theo Epstein is the best example of this. He grew the farm system, and built a strong core around those guys, but also knew when to bite the bullet and open up the wallet on FAs. I trust that Friedman and company can do the former, and they largely are, but I increasingly have doubts on whether they're willing to do the second. My hope is that they are, but my fear is that they're the type of people who will go to 5 different stores across 3 different cities, over the course of 2 hours, so they can say they saved $3 on their groceries. Which is nice. But when you can afford it, it's also unnecessary, and it's probably better to go across the street and pay a few bucks more, and be back in 15 minutes.

That's why I hated the trade deadline deals so much (although Hill was awesome, I'll give them that.). Sometimes it makes sense to pay a little more for a Mark Melancon, sometimes the simpler or slightly more expensive option is better, rather than try to construct a cutesy, 27 player, 5 team deal or bust. Financial discipline and frugality are great things to have, but in a large market, sometimes it can be a bad thing to be purely, or too, focused on it, because, like the people who go to tons of stores to save a nickel when they don't have to, there's still an opportunity cost to that which must be recognized, as well. Jerking off to some utopian future of the OKC Dodgers manning every position by 2018, as they lead us to the World Series, is nice, but hardly realistic. Especially as Clayton Kershaw gets another year older.

I think that's the biggest fear people should have with this FO. The very strengths that this FO brings will keep the Dodgers competitive for years to come, but I pray that the very strengths they have also don't become the very flaws that keep this team as the Clippers of MLB: a very good regular season team, but a perennial postseason choker. Yeah, the postseason is a crapshoot, I know, but not entirely.

So whenever I hear them being called geeks, or hear the pocket calculator references by people who are apparently posting on here from 1963, or members of Kraftwerk, it misses the point, and it's not what you should be concerned about. Taking a sabermetric approach is fairly standard in MLB at this point, and last I checked, the Dodgers have been eliminated by teams headed by Theo Epstein, and Sandy Alderson over the past two years.

Ultimately, I'll give the front office a C+, this year. They deserve credit for the depth, but they botched the deadline, when this team badly needed hitters vs. LHP. Hill was great, but Reddick wasn't the solution. The team needs a revamped offense (which I find myself saying every October, for some reason), with a big middle of the order bat. As I was saying last night, this team hasn't had any guys in the middle of the order that truly scare you, and I think it goes a ways towards explaining this team's streakiness, and troubles with RISP. Gonzalez isn't that anymore and to keep trotting him out there as a 4 hitter is a joke, at this point. For crying out loud, Carlos F'ing Ruiz was a clean up hitter in an NLCS game for this team. What more needs to be said? Once and for all, shore up the offense, eliminate the need for platoons at seemingly every freaking position, because it's getting really old to keep pointing to our troubles with RISP as a main reason for another playoff exit.

The rotation needs to obviously be shored up, and while I'm fine with signing pitchers with risks to compliment or finish off a rotation, they can't take 3/5 of your rotation. Especially, again, when you're in a financial position where you don't have to take so many of those risks.

In essence, I think what I'd love is somewhat of a blow up of this team.  I have more thoughts on that, but I'll get to the more roster related stuff later…

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Oct 23 16 12:36 PM

bigblaster wrote:
Okay. After sleeping on it, I think I'm going to come out and say what some Dodger fans won't want to hear, but need to: I think the Front Office will have to blow up the team. We need to say goodbye to Kike Hernandez, Andre Ethier, Chase Utley, Carlos Ruiz, Howie Kendricks, Brandon McCarthy, Brett Anderson, Joe Blanton. We should be prepared to lose Rich Hill, Josh Reddick and possibly Justin Turner. They need to spend whatever it takes to retain Kenley Jansen and (within reason) Turner. I'm afraid that both Adrian Gonzalez and Yasiel Puig are trade partners and could be the only way to restock the rotation around Kershaw, Maeda and DeLeon. They need to get some power bats that can hit leftys: Ryan Braun or Yoenis Cespedes are good options. Look into the minors for some talent you can bring up--even early. We need a regular daily 2nd baseman who can help Seager mature for a few years. And, we have to be ready to let the Dodgers lose in 2017, if that will mean they'll be better in 2018 and beyond. The window of opportunity has, IMHO, closed, yesterday, for this current team. Tough love, and I doubt the front office has the huevos to do all of this, but I will respect them greatly, if they do.
Does Toes know you advocate dumping three ex-Phillies; Utley, Ruiz, and Blanton?  smiley: eek

I thought Blanton and Utley were mistakes at the time of their signings, but both had decent seasons, until the NLCS.  Ruiz had a couple of big hits for us, but a couple of defensive hiccups, too.  Howie looks to be our only legitimate(?) second baseman.  Anderson is a free agent, so he's gone.  We still owe McCarthy another two years on that horrendous contract (4/$48M), so we'd have to eat that with they "Yips" issue he had last year.  Reddick deal was a complete mystery...we needed a rh hitter, not a platoon lefty.  Hill is talking 3/$45M...Pass on a 37 year old with a terrible injury history.  Ethier has $20M committed to him, so I'd at least see if he can recover from the spiral fracture and return to his 2015 output.

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Oct 23 16 12:40 PM

bigblaster wrote:
Okay. After sleeping on it, I think I'm going to come out and say what loyal Dodger fans won't want to hear, but need to: I think the Front Office will have to blow up the team. We need to say goodbye to Kike Hernandez, Andre Ethier, Chase Utley, Carlos Ruiz, Howie Kendricks, Brandon McCarthy, Brett Anderson, Joe Blanton and Hyun Jin Ryu. We should be prepared to lose Rich Hill, Josh Reddick and possibly Justin Turner. They need to spend whatever it takes to retain Kenley Jansen and (within reason) Turner. I'm afraid that both Adrian Gonzalez and Yasiel Puig should be trade bait and could be the only way to restock the rotation around Kershaw, Maeda and DeLeon. They need to get some power bats that can hit leftys: Ryan Braun or Yoenis Cespedes are good options. Look into the minors for some talent you can bring up--even early. We need a regular daily 2nd baseman who can help Seager mature for a few years. And, we have to be ready to let the Dodgers lose in 2017, if that will mean they'll be better in 2018 and beyond. The window of opportunity has, IMHO, closed, yesterday, for this current team. Tough love, and I doubt the front office has the huevos to do all of this, but I will respect them greatly, if they do.

I couldn't disagree more.  First of all, I'm sure you just forgot about Urias, when you spoke about building around Kershaw, Maeda & DeLeon, so I'm not going to dwell on that.  You do not blow up a team that finished two games short of the World Series.  Trading Adrian Gonzalez is a non-starter.  We couldn't give him away, so forget about getting anything of value back in return.  There is no talent in the upper minors that can hit lefty pitching.  Verdugo, Calhoun & Rios are nothing more than trade bait, as they're all lefties.  Bellinger will not be ready in '17, and he's also a lefty.  What we need is to spend money on retaining Jansen, Turner & Hill.  We also need to spend prospects to get Braun, Dozier & better set up men in the bullpen. 

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Oct 23 16 12:44 PM

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Here's some 20:20 hindsight. We paid Utley and Kendrick a total of $17M this year. Daniel Murphy played for $8M in 2016.

And Murphy hit lefties almost as well as he hit righties.

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Oct 23 16 2:02 PM

It's always tough to watch the Dodgers blow these postseasons. But I'm not overwhelmed with the bitterness, anger and grief that accompanied our Bums' last few postseason collapses. It was an exciting season. These Dodgers did much better than I thought they would this season. With all the injuries, Kershaw out for a large part of the season, a bunch of platoon players, the whole Puig thing, a rookie manager, a front office reluctant to pull the trigger for an established hitter or starter at the trading deadline, and the hated Giants in first for what seemed like most of the season, this team accounted quite well for itself. Sure they lost the big games. We can pick at the scabs of poor decisions and bad luck, like starting Kike at the top of the batting order, the criminally bad call and replay on Agone, not starting Kershaw in Game 5 (ignoring the stat that he pitches better on fewer days rest than he had going into Game 6), Reddick, loss of focus, and on and on, but I find that I'm actually pleased at the season as a whole. It had everything you want in a baseball season - a rookie of the year, a down in the dumps injured team charging ahead in spite of itself, overtaking the Giants, several players with over 20 home runs, beating the Nationals in the NLDS, a rookie manager who grew into the job - so I'd have to call the season a success. I never expected these Dodgers to get as far as they got.

The Cubs are this year's team of destiny. I can't hate them too much; after all, they're not the Giants, Cards or Yankees. But what will it take for the Dodgers to claim the throne of destiny and win it all? A good-to-great hitter who can hit lefties. Starting pitchers who can go 7. Re-sign Jansen and Turner (my prediction - they sign one but not the other). I know the front office is trying to walk the tightrope between competing and building for the future, but so far they don't impress me. They put together this team. It's their job to fill in the holes in the rotation and the lineup. Now let's see what they can do in the offseason. Hopefully better than the last offseason.

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Oct 23 16 3:01 PM

I just don't see this FO getting aggressive this offseason. It's not in their DNA. They will try to fill the holes but there aren't going to be any major FA signings or trades because I honestly feel that the Dodgers view this season as a success and their overall plan is to not win the WS this year or even next year. That's a bonus. Their plan is to be viable for years and imitate the Cubs and how they did things. Problem is the Cubs built a lot through some great trades and years of sucking have them some great drafts.

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Oct 23 16 4:20 PM

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bigblaster wrote:
Okay. After sleeping on it, I think I'm going to come out and say what loyal Dodger fans won't want to hear, but need to: I think the Front Office will have to blow up the team. We need to say goodbye to Kike Hernandez, Andre Ethier, Chase Utley, Carlos Ruiz, Howie Kendricks, Brandon McCarthy, Brett Anderson, Joe Blanton and Hyun Jin Ryu. We should be prepared to lose Rich Hill, Josh Reddick and possibly Justin Turner. They need to spend whatever it takes to retain Kenley Jansen and (within reason) Turner. I'm afraid that both Adrian Gonzalez and Yasiel Puig should be trade bait and could be the only way to restock the rotation around Kershaw, Maeda and DeLeon. They need to get some power bats that can hit leftys: Ryan Braun or Yoenis Cespedes are good options. Look into the minors for some talent you can bring up--even early. We need a regular daily 2nd baseman who can help Seager mature for a few years. And, we have to be ready to let the Dodgers lose in 2017, if that will mean they'll be better in 2018 and beyond. The window of opportunity has, IMHO, closed, yesterday, for this current team. Tough love, and I doubt the front office has the huevos to do all of this, but I will respect them greatly, if they do.

Welcome to the Dark Side, Greg.   Given our farm talent and bankroll, we could do a controlled explosion and rid ourselves of some serious dead weight.    I like the idea of moving AGon but only because I think Bellinger is close.   I can live with a Joc type season if the power and obp is there, something that AGon is no longer able to provide.    Plus, Bellinger adds speed and we would not lose a thing on defense.   I agree on getting a young second sacker to team with Seager.  Would love for it to be Calhoun, but his defense is still a work in progress.   Making a big trade with Milwaukee for both Vilar and Braun is the type of move this front office loves.    I would also offer a carrot to the Snakes for Greinke.    He ain't an ace, but he is one fine number two starter.   A rotation of Kershaw, Greinke, Urias, (a free agent arm or Brock Stewart) and Maeda with either Wood or Stripling or one of our young righthanded arms at OKC to keep Maeda from wearing himself out in September, would work for me.   If we do dip into the free agent waters, I like the look of Ivan Nova.    A sinker baller who went through the Pittsburgh Reclamation Project and it took.   

I am good with cutting the chaff as it were.   Time to lose the old and infirm.    The only exception, IMO, would be Blanton.   I like Everyday Joe as long as he doesn't throw every freakin' day.   Roberts needs to find multiple cuddle buddies in the pen, so we don't have a situation where Blanton is gassed in October.   I would also add in Kazmir and while I love SVS, it is time for the bird to leave the nest.    I would also keep Chooch, but only if we buy out his option and resign him to something a bit more reasonable, kind of like Utley.    The only reason I want to keep Chooch is because I think Barnes replaces Kike as Roberts' jack of all trades.    I am good with some changes because some guys have gotten too comfortable with the Ned Colletti system of keeping guys well beyond their use-by date.    AGon is one of those and I can see it with Ethier and even Howell.   I know loyalty is a wonderful thing but it is getting ridiculous to get so close and then end watching another team celebrate year after year.  

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Oct 23 16 4:22 PM

NewportDodger wrote:
I just don't see this FO getting aggressive this offseason. It's not in their DNA. They will try to fill the holes but there aren't going to be any major FA signings or trades because I honestly feel that the Dodgers view this season as a success and their overall plan is to not win the WS this year or even next year. That's a bonus. Their plan is to be viable for years and imitate the Cubs and how they did things. Problem is the Cubs built a lot through some great trades and years of sucking have them some great drafts.
Right on the money.  Great trades.  Cashner for Rizzo was a big win for the Cubs.  Steve Clevenger for Arrieta and Strop equals deal of the decade.  Baez was a great draft choice.  Zobrist was a good FA sign, Lester even better.

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Oct 23 16 7:08 PM

grabarkewitz wrote:
bigblaster wrote:
Okay. After sleeping on it, I think I'm going to come out and say what loyal Dodger fans won't want to hear, but need to: I think the Front Office will have to blow up the team. We need to say goodbye to Kike Hernandez, Andre Ethier, Chase Utley, Carlos Ruiz, Howie Kendricks, Brandon McCarthy, Brett Anderson, Joe Blanton and Hyun Jin Ryu. We should be prepared to lose Rich Hill, Josh Reddick and possibly Justin Turner. They need to spend whatever it takes to retain Kenley Jansen and (within reason) Turner. I'm afraid that both Adrian Gonzalez and Yasiel Puig should be trade bait and could be the only way to restock the rotation around Kershaw, Maeda and DeLeon. They need to get some power bats that can hit leftys: Ryan Braun or Yoenis Cespedes are good options. Look into the minors for some talent you can bring up--even early. We need a regular daily 2nd baseman who can help Seager mature for a few years. And, we have to be ready to let the Dodgers lose in 2017, if that will mean they'll be better in 2018 and beyond. The window of opportunity has, IMHO, closed, yesterday, for this current team. Tough love, and I doubt the front office has the huevos to do all of this, but I will respect them greatly, if they do.

I would also keep Chooch, but only if we buy out his option and resign him to something a bit more reasonable, kind of like Utley.    The only reason I want to keep Chooch is because I think Barnes replaces Kike as Roberts' jack of all trades.
Trust me, after living in the prime Phillies days in Philadelphia, I'm a big fan of Carlos Ruiz, even if he isn't the same player.  My big concern was a perception I had that Kenley didn't like throwing to him.

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Oct 24 16 5:45 AM

bigblaster wrote:
grabarkewitz wrote:
bigblaster wrote:
Okay. After sleeping on it, I think I'm going to come out and say what loyal Dodger fans won't want to hear, but need to: I think the Front Office will have to blow up the team. We need to say goodbye to Kike Hernandez, Andre Ethier, Chase Utley, Carlos Ruiz, Howie Kendricks, Brandon McCarthy, Brett Anderson, Joe Blanton and Hyun Jin Ryu. We should be prepared to lose Rich Hill, Josh Reddick and possibly Justin Turner. They need to spend whatever it takes to retain Kenley Jansen and (within reason) Turner. I'm afraid that both Adrian Gonzalez and Yasiel Puig should be trade bait and could be the only way to restock the rotation around Kershaw, Maeda and DeLeon. They need to get some power bats that can hit leftys: Ryan Braun or Yoenis Cespedes are good options. Look into the minors for some talent you can bring up--even early. We need a regular daily 2nd baseman who can help Seager mature for a few years. And, we have to be ready to let the Dodgers lose in 2017, if that will mean they'll be better in 2018 and beyond. The window of opportunity has, IMHO, closed, yesterday, for this current team. Tough love, and I doubt the front office has the huevos to do all of this, but I will respect them greatly, if they do.

I would also keep Chooch, but only if we buy out his option and resign him to something a bit more reasonable, kind of like Utley.    The only reason I want to keep Chooch is because I think Barnes replaces Kike as Roberts' jack of all trades.
Trust me, after living in the prime Phillies days in Philadelphia, I'm a big fan of Carlos Ruiz, even if he isn't the same player.  My big concern was a perception I had that Kenley didn't like throwing to him.

I can see that.  Kenley might be one who is slow to change.   Resign both and see if they can work together.    If it doesn't work out, we still have both Grandal and Barnes, whom Kenley might be more comfortable with.    I just got the impression that Chooch seemed a good fit in the clubhouse and on the field with these guys.    

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Oct 24 16 8:49 AM

I am wondering what they can actually do with regards to the offense? They don't have many places to insert new guys.

Kasten's remarks backup what I have been thinking with regards to the goals of this franchise. He states that the Dodgers have a better chance of going to the WS if they are winning the West every year than if they load up for one run. That's true in terms of it being a crap shoot but winning the West is a pretty low hanging goal when you basically have 1 good team in the Giants and a bunch of shit. I think that's just a way of saying "We ain't changing anything so don't expect any big moves."

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Oct 24 16 9:09 AM

NewportDodger wrote:
I am wondering what they can actually do with regards to the offense? They don't have many places to insert new guys.

Kasten's remarks backup what I have been thinking with regards to the goals of this franchise. He states that the Dodgers have a better chance of going to the WS if they are winning the West every year than if they load up for one run. That's true in terms of it being a crap shoot but winning the West is a pretty low hanging goal when you basically have 1 good team in the Giants and a bunch of shit. I think that's just a way of saying "We ain't changing anything so don't expect any big moves."
Yeah, I think the goal at this point is to continue to lower the payroll wherever possible, and filling the holes as needed if not through the system. 
At least one of the big 3 FA will be gone in Turner, Jansen and Hill. Preferable I hope it's Hill, but I get the feeling he'll be the cheapest, so FO will probably bring him back. Reddick, Anderson, Howell and Utley are gone. Blanton, it depends on if he wants a multi year deal, or how much for a 1 year deal, I doubt they go more than 6M for one year on him. 
Puig, Baez, Etheir will be put on the block. I think Chooch's option is picked up. SVS, and Hatcher are not offered arbitration. I see all other arbitration or club control players brought back.
Only big thing I see happening is exploring the trade for Braun, especially if Puig and Baez can be part of it. Rotation I see being (obviously not all) Kershaw, Hill, Maeda, Urias, Kazmir, McCarthy, Stripling, Stewart, and Ryu.
I see Kendrick moving back to 2B, have no idea if Turner isn't resigned what will happen at third. OF is some form of Joc, Toles, Thompson, maybe Braun, Ethier (I don't see Puig back at all) and some other right handed bat.
Pen could be completely different if Jansen and Blanton aren't brought back, and Baez traded as I expect. 

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Oct 24 16 10:00 AM

Back from a visit to the medico, was trying to fix a plank on the dock and in mid hammer swing, slipped and whammed my surgically replaced right shoulder on a piling. Feels better now but pain killers are a wonderful thing. Anyway, I think it is a safe bet Hill is gone. He made it clear that he desires to pitch nearer to home and with Long Island being home, I figure he will be donning the pinstripes in '17. He gave us some good innings and was worth the effort. I also think that Reddick is going to end up back in Boston or Baltimore, fine by me. Power didn't show up and while he was a good fit in the clubhouse, we do not need another platoon outfielder. I am fully vested on a reunion with Greinke. Hazen knows the lay of the land in Arizona and dumping a third of their payroll on Greinke is a bad financial move. He will eat contract to save some money for kids like Lamb, Pollock, Owings and Corbin. I suspect he deals Tomas and listens hard on Goldschmidt. Would not be shocked to see the Astros or Rangers come calling with their deep farm systems and give the Snakes a quick boost on the farm. I fully expect the Pirates getting Miller and fixing him in their Reclamation Project.

I like most of our pen, if we resign Blanton and Kenley. Fields and Dayton are strong finds and I hope Liberatore comes back healthy. Still would like to add another southpaw to give us three solid lefty options. Travis Wood is my first choice and he would be a great righty bat to come off of the bench and I figure we will see both Joshua Sborz and Jacob Rhame in our pen if they are not dealt from time to time in '17. The thing is I think we have to keep Alex Wood if only to keep Maeda's innings down to a workable number. The guy is just too slight to work more than 180 innings and we saw it at the end of the season when he was gassed after forty pitches. He will never be a guy who gives you more than six or seven innings a start, so go with the idea he works four to five times a month and Wood gets the other starts. It is not a revolutionary idea and you can roll Wood out there against teams who are more are like us and can't hit lefties and use Maeda in every other instance. Wood may not like it, but he gets a guaranteed two or three starts a month and if someone gets hurt, his arm is stretched out for a heavier load. Sure, we lean even more lefty but it isn't like we are using some old soft tosser out there armed with a change up and mid-eighties fastball like a certain bearded southpaw we should parts ways with this winter.

Oh, this is getting long-winded and I have to go pick up the Pointy-Headed One. Somehow, her front windshield got a massive crack sometime around 1am on Saturday and I have to take her to the shop to pick it up and pay the bill. Girl has money but I am a sucker for four tears and a sniffle. I should know this, but women have a really irritating way of parting me from my money for just about everything and I always end up with that "What the Hell just happened?" look after it occurs.

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